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November 09, 2009

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Thanks for a great overview of the Kiva issue and why it is a real problem!

Always refreshing to read your posts where you speak the truth when most consultants remain quite when people who they agree with do bad things or do not do them right.

The silence on the KIVA fraud from most of the non-profit consulting community needed to be broken.

The danger of not rooting out the players who deceive the public is the increased cynicism among prospective donors to all charities.

Shabbir

I do not believe what we're seeing here rises to the level of fraud. I believe it's an incredibly poor managing of expectations of the donor fueled by bad judgement at Kiva. At some point one or more people at Kiva had to realize that this was a problem, and they began making changes at the website (like the Disbursement Date field) to try and make things right.

They didn't do enough, but they weren't actively hiding all traces it. Everything Roodman cited was findable on the Kiva site, it was just disclosed poorly.

This much disclosure would be unheard of in the financial industry, which is where we're actually seeing fraud these days.

I have given to Kiva before, and I might very well give again, but as I said above, it's no longer as compelling an ask for me. Something like DonorsChoose.org has always been my other default charity.

Dan

It is sad to see such negative comments over what, in itself, is perfectly normal and acceptable process. Prefunding has been an almost universal standard in financial markets of various kinds.

The real question is whether the Kiva lender fully takes over that particular loan, with its own repayments and potential defaults. As far as I can determine, this does in fact occur most of the time. I say most of the time because some MFIs apparently are retaining the default risk-- which is a troubling interference with the peer to peer lending that Kiva espouses. But to imply that prefunding means that Kiva lenders don't lend to that particular borrower is an illogical and unfounded jump.

Shabbir

I believe you misunderstand the article. The problem isn't with prefunding, only with the poor way in which Kiva communicated this through their tools. As I said, now that they've started taking measures to both explain this and update their materials, they'll probably survive it. This is because pre-funding itself isn't an inappropriate act, when adequately disclosed.

A real serious problem, intimated by the Roodman article and what you mention, is the potential that defaults are carried by the in-country partner. That truly would break the linkage between Kiva lender and in-country borrower.

Dan

I guess when the article ends with the following:
"However Kiva's real loss is the marketing "point of connection to the grantee" feature. That connection is why I and many give to Kiva. It is connection to the grantee that is the emotional hook that brings in dollars. Without it, Kiva isn't as compelling an ask."

I have to assume the article is concluding that the "point of connection" is imaginary--mostly because of prefunding (and slightly due to MFI default risk insurance).

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